915 Motherboard Roundup: Socket 775 for the Rest of Us
by Wesley Fink on December 7, 2004 12:25 AM EST- Posted in
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MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum: Features and Layout
MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum Motherboard Specifications | |
CPU Interface | Socket 775 Pentium 4 (Prescott) |
Chipset | Intel 915P/ICH6R |
BUS Speeds | 100MHz to 400MHz (in 1MHz increments) |
DDR2 Speeds | Auto, 400, 533, 600, 667, 700, 710 |
PCI Speeds | 33.3, 36.3, 40.0 |
Core Voltage | CPU Default to 1.55V in 0.0125V increments |
DRAM Voltage | 1.80V to 2.4V in 0.05V increments |
NB (Northbridge) Voltage | 1.50V-2.05V in 0.05V increments |
Memory Slots | Four 240-pin DDR2 533 Slots Dual-Channel Unbuffered Memory to 4GB |
Expansion Slots | 1 PCIe x16 Slot 2 PCIe x1 slot 3 PCI Slots |
Onboard SATA/RAID | 4 SATA 150 drives by ICH6R Can be combined in RAID 0,1,Intel Matrix |
Onboard IDE/RAID | One Standard ATA100/66 (2 drives) Plus 4 drives by VIA VT6410 - Drives can be combined as RAID 0, 1, 0+1 |
Onboard USB 2.0/IEEE-1394 | 8 USB 2.0 ports 3 IEEE 1394 FireWire Ports by VIA VT6306 |
Onboard LAN | Gigabit PCIe Ethernet by Broadcomm BCM5751 |
Onboard Audio | CMI9880L (HD Audio) 8-Channel with SPDIF in/out |
Tested BIOS | 1.5 AMI |
MSI was surprisingly absent from our earlier roundup of 925X motherboards. This was quite a surprise, since MSI was the only Tier 1 (major) motherboard maker without a product in the 925X roundup. The issue was not that MSI would not make a 925X board, but rather that MSI had many 925X/915 boards in their early production with bad ICH6 family south bridges. MSI decided to hold back shipping any 915/925X products until they could retest and certify products as built with south bridges that performed as they should.
Now, as we are testing for the 915 roundup, MSI has provided their MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum for review. If the name sounds familiar, it is because the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum is one of the best known and top-performing AMD Socket 939 motherboards. MSI apparently uses the Neo2 Platinum name a lot - to designate their top boards in any given family.
The MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum will be immediately recognizable to owners of other Neo and Neo2 products. Call it the family resemblance because the packaging for all the Neo2 boards is very similar.
Like Asus, MSI puts the right ingredients into the mix for their 915P board. This includes using the ICH6R south bridge to provide Intel Matrix RAIS capabilities, the C-Media High Definition audio, the use of Gigabit LAN that resides on the higher speed PCIe bus, or the excellent addition of 4 more IDE ports to supplement the "just 2" provided by the ICH6R south bridge. When we talk about the right mix of 915 features, it could almost be a specification list for MSI or Asus. In this roundup, we at least agree with what the major players believe is important in a 915 design. That has rarely been the case in the past.
MSI also distinguishes itself with excellent tweak/OC options in their AMI BIOS. Memory voltage can be adjusted to an outstanding 2.4V from the stock 1.8V. Northbridge voltage can be adjusted over a similarly broad range. The CPU voltage adjustment range seems more restricted, but a range to 1.55V with a CPU rated at 1.385V does provide some adjustment range. Water and phase-change cooling advocates will wish for a bit more CPU voltage range though. The CPU FSB range from 200 to 500 is amazingly wide - well beyond what any Prescott can actually use.
One area that was a big surprise in the MSI was the unique range of Memory Speed choices, or memory ratios, available on the 915P Neo2 platinum. No one else really offers options from which to choose: 400, 533, 600, 667, 700, 710 in a DDR2 BIOS for a 800FSB board. This range allows you to get the most from any DDR2 memory for the 915P Neo2. You will also not be surprised to see the trademark Core Cell overclocking on the 915P. This allows even novice overclockers to get some significant improvements in performance with overclocking. The named speeds are a bit too cute for tastes at AnandTech, but Core Cell works to allow most anyone to overclock and improve performance. Fortunately, MSI also allows the user to dial-in their own overclocking options if they choose, which is an important feature for most enthusiasts.
MSI, like Asus, pays close attention to board layout. That is why most will find layout of the 915P Neo2 nearly ideal. IDE, floppy and 20/24-pin power are all allocated at the upper right edge where they belong. Only the 4-pin 12V power connector requires a bit of routing prowess with a location between the north bridge and the IO backplane. SATA, extra IDE connectors and feature headers all are located at board edges where they will interfere least with slots. Northbridge, south bridge, and power transistors are all cooled with large passive heatsinks. It is always interesting that Asus, MSI, and DFI prefer to use passive and silent cooling solutions instead of the active and noiser solutions favored by other manufacturers.
It is also worth mentioning that MSI has provided just enough room for the 4 DIMM slots to completely open and close with a large PCI Express video card mounted. If MSI and Asus can figure out how to do this, we wonder why it is such a mystery to some other manufacturers.
Like the better boards in this roundup, MSI has managed to create a really good layout for the 915P Neo2 Platinum. Most any user will find a lot to like in this board's layout.
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krelian - Wednesday, December 8, 2004 - link
I been a Intel user since the first Pentium 3 came out now I have a Intel P4 3.0C I refused to spend more money on things I had already bought so I stayed with the 478 socket, seeing as Intel wants me to move to an expensive platform, I say I'll ditch Intel head with the AMD crowd, I'm sure I won't be the only one, maybe legions of intel campers will leave.ChineseDemocracyGNR - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
About the config I put together in the previous post; does anyone know if the overclock lock on the 915P chipsets apply to lower FSB's too? Could I overclock the 133MHz Celeron D to 200MHz on any 915P motherboard?ChineseDemocracyGNR - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
The 915P chipset provides good value for the money. For example:ECS 915P-A $79
Intel Celeron D 325J 2.53GHz $88
Albatron GeForce 6600 128MB $120.50
or
Albatron GeForce 6600GT 128MB $190.50
(newegg prices)
The processor can be overclocked to 3.6+GHz very easily, much like the Athlon Mobiles.
That makes a good budget gaming rig, better than anything you could put together with an AMD processor for the same money. So, at least in my opinion, AMD has a better mainstream/high-end processor, and Intel wins the value segment. Who would say?
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I have now read the entire article, and oh boy! Though I prefer to read about socket 754/939 motherboards, this has to be the best motherboard roundup I ever read. Ever. Well done.
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#22,
thank your fixing it. The typo I wrote about on page 10:
"The fact that Asus manages a higher OC than more recognized OC boards like DFI and Asus "
Don't you mean ABIT in the last word there?
ocyl - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
Wesley > Thank you for paying attention to the audio features/components of these motherboards, particularly Dolby Digital Live :)Wesley Fink - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
#21 - The Foxconn results have been corrected on p.20. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.ChineseDemocracyGNR - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
A few typos:"The fact that Asus manages a higher OC than more recognized OC boards like DFI and Asus "
page 10.
On page 20, the "Front Side Bus Overclocking Testbed" table is probably wrong.
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Good article.
LeadFrog - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
Why does only the socket 915 get a 16mb cache Hard Drive?danidentity - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
Wes, I said thanks before but I'll say it again, great roundup. We appreciate your hard work, always.danidentity - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
Live -The P5GD2 is expensive compared to most boards, but it includes a ton of stuff, like 8 SATA ports, dual gigabit LAN, on-board 802.11g/b, and on-board hi-def audio with Dolby Digital Live (realtime encoding, like SoundStorm).
Most 915P boards aren't as close to as expensive as the Asus. The Abit AG8 is ~ $130, equal or cheaper in price than the K8N Neo2.
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - link
#16 - After I did the price analysis today I changed "outstanding value" to "good value". Thanks for the comment about the review being good reading. It is appreciated as a huge amount of work went into this roundup.